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thenorthener2050https://forums.uooutlands.com/index.php?threads/murderers-in-groups-getting-a-bit-ridiculous.6057/page-3
I created an account just to reply to this thread.
Let's first say that as a member of an antipk guild and an antipk alliance my answer is a bit biased but let's input some numbers in...
I started with 11m gold in my bank and now i have 23m gold, so 12m gold farmed.
Farmed 3 scepters which amounts to 4.5m gold, also farmed something like an extra 3m gold plus an extra 3.5m+ gold collected from corpses.
The template I was using was
100 sword
100 archery
100 tactics
100 healing
100 anatomy
100 magic resist
90 alchemy
30 magery
Blood aspect T14
Started with 11 links and now I'm at 13 links.
My links are
4 melee damage and special chance bronze links
2 melee damage and special chance silver links
6 defense chance silver links
My gear was:
- Blessed hood
- Blessed gloves
- Gold plate shoulder
- Gold chainmail chest
- Gold chainmail leggings
- Goldhide studded gorget
- Power axe
- Verite halber
- Verite longsword
- Gold katana
- Force heavy crossbow
- Force crossbow
It had to be said that this is not a optimized pvm template, is actually a template designed for overland factions pvp, is not designed to perform well in pvm nor in dungeon pvp.
In the process of farming 12m gold I had approximately 10-15 encounters with reds.
Some of those encounters were stealth reds popping out of nowhere and trying to dump on me while i was farming a mob, even trying to wall me inside rooms with mobs. Other encounters where red groups of 4+, like napoleon crew of 5+ or the RUS crew of 7+.
Thanks to the 30 magery and having the ability to telerope i was able to run away from the pk groups and thanks to being a pvp template i was able to chase away a lot of the solo pks.
In the process of farming I did die 2 times in combat against reds but was basically because I was not only farming but also answering pvp callouts. Also died 1 time to mobs. I lost 0 gear because I was able to recover my gear from my body every time (the combat against the reds was a group battle so they don't had the chance to loot me)
While farming I died basically 0 times to pks.
So 0 lost gear.
I'm not saying this to brag because I consider myself a mid tier pvper and I'm also a mid tier pvmer.
What I'm trying to say is that if I'm able to farm and escape without even having tracking and farm 12m gold with one set of gear I think that anybody should be able to at least farm 100k with a set of gear.
So for people that think the pks are out of control and it is impossible to farm a dungeon their experience is not necessarily the experience of everybody.
If you seriously have that many problems playing and are encountering reds every second you are probably playing in a very specific time when lots of pks are logging in.
The only recommendation I can give is to join a guild and try to learn the basics to survive:
- Don't make full glass canons.
- Have the ability to telerope.
- Learn spatial awareness. Don't farm yourself into a dead end.
- Learn how to survive a mage dump. Pouching to time bandages, how to use pots, etc.
EDIT: I don't pk, I don't have red characters, I don't steal from blue corpses.
Even so I'm 100% against a trammel option or even more sanctuary dungeons.
The only think that could be interesting to break the monotony of the sanctuary dungeon would be if the dungeon bonus rotations were set every 3 days instead of every week.
By the way tidal tomb is currently sanctuary dungeon, I farmed it for a bit. TT gives so much gold that its sanctuary version dungeon gives you as much gold per minute as nusero normal version.
So I recommend it if you can farm on it.
I created an account just to reply to this thread.
Let's first say that as a member of an antipk guild and an antipk alliance my answer is a bit biased but let's input some numbers in...
I started with 11m gold in my bank and now i have 23m gold, so 12m gold farmed.
Farmed 3 scepters which amounts to 4.5m gold, also farmed something like an extra 3m gold plus an extra 3.5m+ gold collected from corpses.
The template I was using was
100 sword
100 archery
100 tactics
100 healing
100 anatomy
100 magic resist
90 alchemy
30 magery
Blood aspect T14
Started with 11 links and now I'm at 13 links.
My links are
4 melee damage and special chance bronze links
2 melee damage and special chance silver links
6 defense chance silver links
My gear was:
- Blessed hood
- Blessed gloves
- Gold plate shoulder
- Gold chainmail chest
- Gold chainmail leggings
- Goldhide studded gorget
- Power axe
- Verite halber
- Verite longsword
- Gold katana
- Force heavy crossbow
- Force crossbow
It had to be said that this is not a optimized pvm template, is actually a template designed for overland factions pvp, is not designed to perform well in pvm nor in dungeon pvp.
In the process of farming 12m gold I had approximately 10-15 encounters with reds.
Some of those encounters were stealth reds popping out of nowhere and trying to dump on me while i was farming a mob, even trying to wall me inside rooms with mobs. Other encounters where red groups of 4+, like napoleon crew of 5+ or the RUS crew of 7+.
Thanks to the 30 magery and having the ability to telerope i was able to run away from the pk groups and thanks to being a pvp template i was able to chase away a lot of the solo pks.
In the process of farming I did die 2 times in combat against reds but was basically because I was not only farming but also answering pvp callouts. Also died 1 time to mobs. I lost 0 gear because I was able to recover my gear from my body every time (the combat against the reds was a group battle so they don't had the chance to loot me)
While farming I died basically 0 times to pks.
So 0 lost gear.
I'm not saying this to brag because I consider myself a mid tier pvper and I'm also a mid tier pvmer.
What I'm trying to say is that if I'm able to farm and escape without even having tracking and farm 12m gold with one set of gear I think that anybody should be able to at least farm 100k with a set of gear.
So for people that think the pks are out of control and it is impossible to farm a dungeon their experience is not necessarily the experience of everybody.
If you seriously have that many problems playing and are encountering reds every second you are probably playing in a very specific time when lots of pks are logging in.
The only recommendation I can give is to join a guild and try to learn the basics to survive:
- Don't make full glass canons.
- Have the ability to telerope.
- Learn spatial awareness. Don't farm yourself into a dead end.
- Learn how to survive a mage dump. Pouching to time bandages, how to use pots, etc.
EDIT: I don't pk, I don't have red characters, I don't steal from blue corpses.
Even so I'm 100% against a trammel option or even more sanctuary dungeons.
The only think that could be interesting to break the monotony of the sanctuary dungeon would be if the dungeon bonus rotations were set every 3 days instead of every week.
By the way tidal tomb is currently sanctuary dungeon, I farmed it for a bit. TT gives so much gold that its sanctuary version dungeon gives you as much gold per minute as nusero normal version.
So I recommend it if you can farm on it.
